System has no support for gtk python interface

[Jeff Johnson]

On Jan 29, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Richard Bos wrote:

> Op zondag 29 januari 2006 16:33, schreef Jeff Johnson:
>> FYI: rpm-4.4.4 (which should "work" under smart-0.41) adds forward
>> (for "newer" installed packages)
>> and backward (for "older" erased packages) links.
>>
>> E.g. you can display which packages were erased by a given package
>> install by doing
>>
>> $ rpm -q --blink popt
>> popt-1.10.5-0.6.i386.rpm
>>          <= popt-1.10.5-0.4.i386.rpm
>>
>> which means that popt-1.10.5-0.6.i386.rpm upgraded
>> popt-1.10.5-0.4.i386.rpm.
>
> Hello Jeff,
>
> but what about a simple transaction log in e.g. /var/log, like we  
> have for
> apt:
> eos:/var/log> tail apt.log
> Sun Dec  4 21:06:37 2005;install;python-qt;3.5.0-8
> Sun Dec  4 21:06:37 2005;upgrade;kdeaddons3-konqueror;3.4.2-7 =>  
> 3.5.0-5
> Sun Dec  4 21:06:37 2005;upgrade;kdemultimedia3-mixer;3.4.2-8 =>  
> 3.5.0-7
> Sun Dec  4 21:06:37 2005;upgrade;kdebindings3-python;3.4.2-3 =>  
> 3.5.0-8
>
> Or do:
> eos:/var/log> grep remove apt.log
> Tue Jul  5 21:43:44 2005;remove;RealPlayer;10.0.3-5
> Sun Dec  4 11:08:16 2005;remove;kdebluetooth;0.0.svn20050814-10
>
> This way it is very easy to track what happened (concerning rpms).   
> Of course
> this tracking can be done by apt, smart, etc.  but a native  
> transaction
> logging by rpm (in /var/log/rpm.log), would be very much appreciated!

The issue for rpm (and rpmlib) is that any facilities *must* be  
functional
in empty chroot's (yes, no files whatsoever), and the program needs  
to be useful
w/o messing around with a lot of setup.

And the core design issue is that programs like smart and rpm need to  
just "work",
there are way too many details needed to identify a problem for a simple
log to be more than a lint trap for RFE's about more, and more  
specific, information
is needed.

FWIW, I suspect that smart already has some form of logging. If not,  
it will soon ;-)

Try <rpm-devel at lists.dulug.duke.edu> for rpm issues, this is smart,  
not rpm, support here.

73 de Jeff